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Are we watching History repeat itself? This...
Old 09-14-2009, 04:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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...time do we have the luxury of waiting? The free nations of the world once had opportunity to address the insidious rise of the Nazi ideology in its formative years when it could have been dispatched without great cost. But they delayed, and the result was atomic bombs falling on cities, 50 million people dead worldwide, and the swastika's shadow nearly plunging this planet into Cimmerian night. Winston Churchill's words of warning far preceded such tragic events. He said, ``If you will not fight when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be a worse moment. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory because it is still better to perish than to live as slaves.'' If so-called enlightened Germans fell prey to the Nazi ideology, why do we not believe Third World Muslims can also fall prey in large numbers to this jihadist ideology? History does indeed repeat itself and each time the price goes up. Jihadists believe they have a critical advantage over free people in the world. They believe their will is far stronger than ours and that they need only to persevere to break our resolve. We need to ask ourselves first, not whether the Nation should have gone to war but whether the Nation should lose this war . Will jihadists break the will of the world's free people or not? Will they be able to hide long enough to gain access to nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction? If we do allow nations like Iran to gain nuclear weapons, what will we tell our children when they face nuclear jihad, perhaps even in this generation? If liberals are willing to see freedom defeated in Iraq , are they willing to take responsibility for what will almost certainly follow? If this entire Nation was riveted and heartbroken when two airplanes hit two buildings in New York, how will we feel when an entire American city is in nuclear flames? If Speaker Pelosi and other Democrats are willing to vote against monitoring terrorist conversations on the telephone, or tracking their financial transactions, or protecting our border from terrorist insurgency, or effectively interrogating terrorists in custody, or sending reinforcements to our troops on the battlefield, then the question that cries for an answer is what are they willing to do to defeat Islamic terrorism? What is their plan?
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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they have no plan they beilive that everyone will play nice and things will work outtypical liberal bs
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Great point.And of course, liberals won't take credit for what happens if the jihadists win. They will just whine and cry like they always do.Why do the liberals aid the terrorists and want the terrorists to succeed?
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No, I don't think we do have that luxury. Great points in your additional details. I don't think the Democrats have any plan except to try and win in 2008.
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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great question. i've been thinking about this for awhile, and i think you're right- history is repeating itself. and it seems to me that those of us who see it this way, are being blamed for being war-mongers, when it's the "victims" who are the war mongers. (victims being the extremists who want to kill us all.)since i've got kids, i'm especially in favor of taking care of this once and for all. that isn't the only reason though- these people want to kill anyone who doesn't believe as they do. they are evil, IMO, and i want them gone from this Earth.
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Pelosi and Her crew have got their noses so far up the Anti War activists buttcheeks that their main concern is not what is best for this Nation but what will advance their Careers. The real danger here is that these self serving Politicians are recieving marching orders from the likes of Jane Fonda and Michael Moore. Folks who think America deserved 9-11 and deserve even worse, yet also hypocritically enjoy living here in the land they hate so much. These are the same folks who want to turn our security over to the United Nations, as if France gives a damn about our safety. Do these Politicians actually believe they would retain their powerful positions if one day America comes under Muslim Authority? Can they really be that stupid?
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Libs are going to get us all killed! As a 9/11 survivor, I wish this world would be a hell of a lot more proactive against rogue regimes and terrorist groups.The EU FINALLY admitted that Iran was going to have a nuke no matter what. What the hell too them so long to figure that one out? I am sick of everyone tip-toeing around these countries that are going to do serious, serious harm to us. How can you diplomatically approach this subject when these people live and die by what the Koran supposedly says? This is beyond political beliefs, it is their religion! No amount of negotiations will ever supercede their religious beliefs that the West must submit to Allah or perish!Dems claim that there is still a chance at negotiations. How do you figure that?!?! It takes one nuke to murder millions. They don't have a delivery system? They are called terrorists that would be happy and honored to die to kill off the infidels. They just get Allah's blessing and 72 virgins - not a bad deal!Stop the nonsense, Libs! Let's get real and stop the problem before it gets worse! And trust me, it will get worse.
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:00 AM   #8 (permalink)
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History is repeating itself: George Bush is starting to make the case for war in Iran, but this time, the Senate will not trust him to use force as a last resort.As for the rest of your right wing pablum, you overestimate the capabilities of "the terrorists." You can't scare the country into believing your horses**t this time.
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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you are right all the way . when the liberals step up with their so called plan the enemy will be waitng and we will all pay for their ignorance. the only thing that counts to them is that they win in 2008.
 
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The problem lies primarily with Liberals. They seem perfectly content never to learn from experience. They live in some naive La La Land where we can hold hands with the Muslim extremists while Jane Fonda cooks them brownies (wear a full burka Jane, your exposed calves are an abomination to Allah!).Liberals don't have a plan. I really believe that, on some level, they realize there will always be enough sensible Republicans to allow them to continue living irresponsibly. It's as if the Republican is the hard working parent, while the Liberals is the dope smoking High School dropout who has been living in his parents' basement for the last ten years, watching sitcoms and trying to score some pot.How can Liberals have a plan to defeat terrorism when so many of them even deny the problem exists? Have you read some of the posts here?The Liberals will inevitably shoot for the lazy way out: accomodation. It's like delaying the inevitable; waiting to pay your taxes until 11pm April 14th. This is the route Bill Clinton took with the issue of North Korea trying to get nukes. He just signed an agreement with them, which gave them the time they needed to pursue their research.Here's what the wise Ronald Reagan had to say about accomodation with the enemy:"Accommodation is based on wishing not thinking, and if the wish doesn't come true the enemy is far stronger than he was before you started down that road.The other way is based on the belief (supported so far by all evidence) that in an all out race our system is stronger, and eventually the enemy gives up the race as a hopeless cause. Then a noble nation believing in peace extends the hand of friendship and says there is room in the world for both of us. We can make those rockets into bridge lamps by being so strong the enemy has no choice, or we can bet our lives and freedom on the cockeyed theory that if we make him strong enough he'll learn to love us."The answer to your question is not just shockingly simple, but tragically so: the Liberals do not have a plan to defeat Islamic terrorism. They will just jump from one "feel good" plan to the next.
 
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